Majadiliano:Mapenzi ya jinsia moja

Istilahi na tafsiri

Aina kuu za wapenzi wa jinsia moja ni wasagaji, mashoga, wasenge na mabasha. Maneno hayo yanaweza kutumika kwa dhihaka au kwa lengo la kudhalilisha watu wa namna hiyo. Matumizi hayo yanaweza kuathiri vibaya hisia na heshima ya watu hao.

Nilipookozesha ni dhahiri mtoa mada hajui utamaduni wa Waswahili. Kama ametumia utamaduni wa Waafrika kwa lugha yao kuweka utamaduni wa Kizungu ni upotoshaji mkubwa. Waswahili hawawezi kusema MSENGE ama MFIRAJI mbele za watu. Ndiyo maana ili kupunguza ukali wa maneno, wataita SHOGA (MSENGE) na MFIRAJI (basha). Hiyo statement hapo juu inahitaji marekebisho makubwa kabisa. Visichanganywe. Said Mfaume (majadiliano) 08:27, 12 Desemba 2024 (UTC)

Ndugu, aliyeweka maneno hayo ni Mmarekani mwenye asili ya Tanzania. Tuliwahi kuwasiliana naye kuhusu mada hizo tata, lakini mitazamo ni tofauti. Kwa jumla katika mradi huu wa kimataifa hatuwezi kupinga mno tabia hizo. Amani kwako! --Riccardo Riccioni (majadiliano) 11:13, 12 Desemba 2024 (UTC)

Ikibidi hivyo hilo ni tatizo. Hata hivyo, makala ina mitazamo mingi sana ya kifalsafa na itikadi fulani badala ya tabia. Pengine ingepunguzwa baadhi ya mitazamo ili isiwe kubwa kiasi cha kwamba haina hata maana kuisoma. Isipishane sana na ENWIKI. Said Mfaume (majadiliano) 13:37, 12 Desemba 2024 (UTC)

Dada poa

Si msagaji jamani ni changudoa au muuza mwili wake kama kipato. Hakuna matumizi ya dada poa katika kutaja wasagaji. _Muddyb^Longa 15:40, 15 Januari 2025 (UTC)

Imefanyika.

Neutrality status of this article

This article is one of the least neutral article in Wikipedia.

The article is Homophobic

I think it needs revision, Example what's this

"Kwa namna ya pekee ulawiti ndiyo njia ya mapenzi iliyo hatari zaidi kwa afya, hasa kwa yule anayefanyiwa, kutokana na ulaini wa tishu za sehemu za mkundu"

You guys think being Homosexual is a choice? That explain why in third world countries its illegal

Aguahrz^Chronist2.0

(Mtumiaji) 14:19, 10 Februari 2025 (UTC)

yes It is, Especially the white admin who is so homophobic Anyrmson (majadiliano) 11:13, 11 Februari 2025 (UTC)

BIBLE: https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/1%20Corinthians%206%3A9 ~2025-19916 (talk) 11:15, 11 Februari 2025 (UTC)

Not everyone is a conservative christian or a christian in general, furthermore nobody is gay because the chose to be. Because most even wish they weren't born gay.

Nobody should live in fear because the society will never love them and no matter what they do they will never become straight, nobody chooses to be gay.

If you are a good christian you shouldn't be judging because God is against it Anyrmson (majadiliano) 11:29, 11 Februari 2025 (UTC)

Hatimaye umeonyesha rangi yako halisi. Bravo! Said Mfaume (majadiliano) 11:34, 11 Februari 2025 (UTC)

TRUTH: being GAY is due of hidden DAEMON possession. Byera08 (majadiliano) 11:40, 11 Februari 2025 (UTC)

@Anyrmson looks like a perfect spot for spreading gay-ish propaganda. Furthermore, the gay community do whatever it takes to silence those who opposing them. Mostly by using the minority and human rights card each and every time. Well, the world is not fair either of us. Tuishi tu. Said Mfaume (majadiliano) 11:46, 11 Februari 2025 (UTC)

@Anyrmson You don't get to call people names that please you. I have seen someone reverted your misinformed texts. See it here. What are you? A homophobia? _Muddyb^Longa 18:47, 5 Aprili 2025 (UTC)

@Said Mfaume @Byera08

Sexual orientation is not a choice but an inherent aspect of a person’s identity, shaped by a mix of biological, psychological, and social factors.

"Being gay isn’t a choice, just like being straight isn’t. People don’t wake up one day and decide who they’re attracted to—it’s just part of who they are."

research in genetics and psychology supports the understanding that sexual orientation is not a conscious decision but a natural variation in human identity. Anyrmson (majadiliano) 11:46, 11 Februari 2025 (UTC)

Wow! What a justification. It;s okay, it's entirely up to you. Said Mfaume (majadiliano) 12:03, 11 Februari 2025 (UTC)

This article depicts something akin to using of screwdriver in role of chisel, I mean anti-functional, aka un-natural. ~2025-23540 (talk) 09:57, 19 Februari 2025 (UTC)

@~2025-23540 You have no right to remove the NPOV template, Since i am not the Only one who thinks the neutrality of this article is doubted .

This Wikipedia isn't for the East Africans only,Its meant for the whole world. And like @Anyrmson said, You don't wake up today and decide whom you are attracted to!

And why are you using IP,You are afraid?

Aguahrz^Chronist2.0

(Mtumiaji) 13:22, 19 Februari 2025 (UTC)

All anti-NPOV statements already deleted by me. LindaEKedit (majadiliano) 15:53, 11 Machi 2025 (UTC)

@Muddyb, You are hilarious, Did you even check the text that he reverted, that's not my work, He reverted someone else work not mine. Anyrmson (majadiliano) 04:26, 6 Aprili 2025 (UTC)

NPOV Removal

There's no discussion showing that there Neutrality Status has been achieved, all the members who submitted agree that it violates neutrality have to give their views.

@Muddyb You actually removed it even without discussion, hilarious it is

Aguahrz^Chronist2.0

(Mtumiaji) 14:18, 20 Aprili 2025 (UTC)

@Gayle157 Which members? And discuss it with whom? Nobody shares anything what need changes... Can you point out some? _Muddyb^Longa 17:17, 20 Aprili 2025 (UTC)

Oh, Please don't be delusional.

You clearly understand how this sensitive topic has brought up heated arguments , So you can't just remove the template like it's nothing.

Discuss with everyone , I mean put it under discussion and people will contribute about it.

Don't act so bossy.

Aguahrz^Chronist2.0

(Mtumiaji) 17:20, 20 Aprili 2025 (UTC)

Name calling again. I said, point out what needs to be done so the tag will be removed. Or planning to leave it there for good? _Muddyb^Longa 17:44, 20 Aprili 2025 (UTC)

And i told you that you need to start a discussion so that anyone else who thinks it violates neutrality submit their views then its revised.

Its not about me or you, It includes everyone. So you shouldn't just remove it like that.

Omg, I just told you not to act bossy, That's not name-calling.

What!

Aguahrz^Chronist2.0

(Mtumiaji) 17:50, 20 Aprili 2025 (UTC)

Onyesha tatizo Gayle.

Onyesha, onyesha, onyesha. Usiseme tu ina shida lakini huonyeshi. Kuna maandishi mengi humo. Sema hapa panahitaji hivi. Boresha, huwezi, mfahamishe mwengine mwenye uwezo wa kuboresha afanya kwa niaba yako kama umeona kweli lipo tatizo. Kuzungumza jumla haisaidii. Sawa? _Muddyb^Longa 18:01, 20 Aprili 2025 (UTC)

Now that's where you get it wrong, Its not about me!

Its about the people who submitted their Views on Meta about Violation of Neutrality on this article.

As for me i haven't read it Fully because last time i just read a part of it and it was ridiculous though there is a user who cleaned it.

Stop being on rush every now and then its being cleaned.

Aguahrz^Chronist2.0

(Mtumiaji) 18:06, 20 Aprili 2025 (UTC)

Ungeisoma sasa uwe sehemu ya wasafishaji wake. Kama mgeni mtu kama @Sakura emad ameweza kufanya jambo ilhali hata hatokei upande wa Kiswahili, itakuwa wewe uliyezaliwa katika ukanda huu? Jitahidi ndugu kuiboesha! _Muddyb^Longa 18:32, 20 Aprili 2025 (UTC)

Yet he reported you guys in Meta,

I will revise it later, But as for now the Neutrality Template remains

Aguahrz^Chronist2.0

(Mtumiaji) 18:34, 20 Aprili 2025 (UTC)

And so did you! Let the NPOV tag remain there does't bother me... _Muddyb^Longa 18:45, 20 Aprili 2025 (UTC)

I didn't report you about Neutrality. That's different

Aguahrz^Chronist2.0

(Mtumiaji) 18:46, 20 Aprili 2025 (UTC)

Neither did she! Read her statement at Meta. _Muddyb^Longa 18:50, 20 Aprili 2025 (UTC)

I think you read the wrong one, It talks about Neutrality actually her/his paragraph 1 says , look at the last line of this

Hi U4C,

I'm not sure how much weight my comment holds, but while reviewing the Swahili Wikipedia article on Homosexuality (Mapenzi ya jinsia moja), I found it to be full of bias, misinformation, and outright homophobic framing — clearly violating NPOV and Wikimedia’s core values

Aguahrz^Chronist2.0

(Mtumiaji) 18:56, 20 Aprili 2025 (UTC)

@Gayle157, @Muddyb: What matters most is truth, and what clearly violates Wikimedia’s foundational policies must be addressed and removed. I took the time to thoroughly review the article, improve its structure, and remove elements of bigotry and unsupported claims — with the goal of aligning it with a more neutral and policy-compliant perspective.

My report was not a personal attack against any individual editor or the Swahili community as a whole. Rather, it specifically concerned Riccardo, whose repeated promotion of biased content and policy violations remains evident even now. Reporting such behavior supports the health and sustainability of the project, not the opposite.

Violations like that don’t just stain an article they hurt the integrity, the self-governance, and even the growth of Swahili Wikipedia.

I truly believe that by replacing falsehoods with fact and bias with fairness, I’ve helped this project breathe better made it a bit more lawful, a bit more safe, and a bit more honest for readers who come looking for truth.

While I may not be a native Swahili speaker, I understand what it takes to nurture and manage a healthy editing environment, where we can build, improve, and sustain an ecosystem where people feel heard, protected, and respected. Because I, too, manage one or more communities on my home wikis, and I firmly believe in promoting safe, accurate, and balanced content for all readers and contributors alike. Sakura emad (majadiliano) 20:26, 20 Aprili 2025 (UTC)

Redirect

@Muddyb I don't understand why you removed the Redirect template?

Aguahrz^Chronist2.0

(Mtumiaji) 12:24, 27 Aprili 2025 (UTC) It was just a simple mistake you could have corrected Instead of removing

Aguahrz^Chronist2.0

(Mtumiaji) 12:26, 27 Aprili 2025 (UTC)

ETERNAL PROTECTION over SIMPLE MISTAKE is to be ASAP LIFTED. ~2025-49661 (talk) 13:48, 27 Aprili 2025 (UTC)

Neutrality

I am removing the NPOV tag by tomorrow, Anyone who still thinks it violates neutrality can revise it by then.

Aguahrz^Chronist2.0

(Mtumiaji) 13:40, 27 Aprili 2025 (UTC)

Imefanyika.