Majadiliano ya mtumiaji:Kipala : Tofauti kati ya masahihisho

Yaliyomo ya ukurasa hayatumiki katika lugha nyingine.
Kutoka Wikipedia, kamusi elezo huru
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::Would you mind just to explain in simple words what AWB is doing, what is different from now and an example how you are using it. And maybe 2 arguments of people who do not lie it. '''[[Mtumiaji:Kipala|Kipala]] ([[Majadiliano ya mtumiaji:Kipala#top|majadiliano]])''' 14:50, 17 Agosti 2010 (UTC)
::Would you mind just to explain in simple words what AWB is doing, what is different from now and an example how you are using it. And maybe 2 arguments of people who do not lie it. '''[[Mtumiaji:Kipala|Kipala]] ([[Majadiliano ya mtumiaji:Kipala#top|majadiliano]])''' 14:50, 17 Agosti 2010 (UTC)
:::Well, actually, maybe we don't need to change anything. Maybe we already have a way to govern the use of AWB here at SW. I've asked for some information from an AWB person at [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rodhullandemu#AWB_-_approval_protocol_at_other_projects_.28sw.29 en:AWB]. I'll keep you posted. --'''[[Mtumiaji:Mr Accountable|Mr Accountable]] ([[Majadiliano ya mtumiaji:Mr Accountable|majadiliano]])''' 15:33, 17 Agosti 2010 (UTC)
:::Well, actually, maybe we don't need to change anything. Maybe we already have a way to govern the use of AWB here at SW. I've asked for some information from an AWB person at [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rodhullandemu#AWB_-_approval_protocol_at_other_projects_.28sw.29 en:AWB]. I'll keep you posted. --'''[[Mtumiaji:Mr Accountable|Mr Accountable]] ([[Majadiliano ya mtumiaji:Mr Accountable|majadiliano]])''' 15:33, 17 Agosti 2010 (UTC)

== re:[[Rais wa Marekani]] na utafsiri wa google ==

Sorry about that. I actually was "moving" the article from "[[Marais wa Amerika]]" which seemed to be mislabeled. I didn't create the article and if you want to delete it go ahead. Yes, it would be nice if someone marked or deleted articles that are mumbo-jumbo so people don't bother trying to fix them. --'''[[Mtumiaji:MarsRover|MarsRover]] ([[Majadiliano ya mtumiaji:MarsRover|majadiliano]])''' 14:48, 18 Agosti 2010 (UTC)

Pitio la 14:48, 18 Agosti 2010

Karibu kuongeza chako chini!

Kumbukumbu ya Hifadhi ya Nyaraka

Majadiliano ya awali yamehamishwa kwenye kurasa za Hifadhi ya Nyaraka:

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Arusha

Kipala vipi ndugu yangu..samahani kwa makosa yangu sikuwa nimesoma wikipedia mwongozo..bado najifunza.Maneno mengine ni vigumu kupata tafsiri yake hapo ndo natumia google translate lakini kwa neno moja moja tu..tuzidi kusaidiana.


Nonkilling

Hi! I was wondering if you would help us create an entry in Kiswahili for "Nonkilling" [1]. The first paragraph would do! --Cgnk (majadiliano) 19:02, 3 Juni 2009 (UTC)[jibu]

Commonwealth

You can delete it if you wish. I was trying to explain that there are four states that are called "commonwealths" instead of "states", and that by definition there really is no difference. It was a poor attempt on my part. Jhendin (majadiliano) 23:43, 21 Machi 2009 (UTC)[jibu]

Kipala, salam. Eti, unaweza kunidokezea kidogo kuhusiana na hii "heroin?" Ni madawa ya kulevya ama kitu gani? Itakuwa bora zaidi endapo kama utaindikia makala ili faida wapate watu wote! Lakini kabla hujaandikia makala (au hata ukiona uandike moja kwa moja ni sawa tu). Shida yangu ni kujua hiyo heroin ni kitu gani! Kazi njema.--Mwanaharakati (Longa) 10:07, 24 Machi 2009 (UTC)[jibu]

Basi umepata afyuni na heroini --Kipala (majadiliano) 09:12, 25 Machi 2009 (UTC)[jibu]
MENO NJE! Kabla sijaanza kutia neno lolote lile kwanza ninatoa shukrani zangu kwako! Najisikia vibaya kwa mtu mzima kama wewe kukuomba makala hii. Haya, tatizo lililoko huku kwetu kwa sasa ni namna ya kuita madawa au dawa? Eti walikuwa wanadai ya kwamba hakuna madawa, bali kuna dawa! Lakini bado haileti maana kwa sababu hutoweza kutofautisha wingi wake kama hutoita madawa! Watajua wenyewe. Madawa ya kulevya umeadindika sahihi kabisa. Huwezi kutaja wingi wake bila kusema madawa ya kulevya, never. Hivyo upo sahihi mzee wangu. Au labda utumie dawa za kulevya?--Mwanaharakati (Longa) 10:06, 25 Machi 2009 (UTC)[jibu]
Salaaam! Naomba nisaidie maana ya "Job queue lenth". Nitakuwa mwenye kushukuru endapo utanisaidia hili!--Mwanaharakati (Longa) 06:50, 26 Machi 2009 (UTC)[jibu]
Sina uhakika. --Kipala (majadiliano) 08:55, 26 Machi 2009 (UTC)[jibu]

Je, nikikupa kiungo husika na maelezo utanisaidia?--Mwanaharakati (Longa) 11:18, 26 Machi 2009 (UTC)[jibu]

Nisipokosei niliwahi kuiangalia lakini sijaelewa. Nimekata tamaa nikaiacha. Je huwezi kuona raha bila kuielewa? --Kipala (majadiliano) 16:48, 26 Machi 2009 (UTC)[jibu]
Mmhhh. Haswaaaa, sijikii raha bila kuilewa! Pia, lengo litakuwa halijatimia!! Basi nenda hapa. Ukifika utaona maelezo yaliyotajwa hapo juu!--Mwanaharakati (Longa) 16:53, 26 Machi 2009 (UTC)[jibu]

Miji, kata, wilaya, na mikoa ya Kenya

Kipala, salam. Nimeona umeshaanza kuandika au kuandaa baadhi ya mikoa wilaya na... ya Kenya. Je, muundo wa majedwali yao yamekaa kirahisi? Ninauliza kwa sababu ningependa kuchangia tena! Kama inawezekana. Ni mimi kijana wako,--Mwanaharakati (Longa) 06:53, 27 Machi 2009 (UTC)[jibu]

Asante - nitaanzisha ukurasa wa pekee kwa kazi hii. Nimeanza kutafuta ufafanuzi zaidi kutoka arthurbuliva yuko tayari kushauri pia. Mara naona mwanga juu ya utaratibu wa Kenya tuanze nitafurahi tukiendelea kushirikiana! --Kipala (majadiliano) 13:05, 27 Machi 2009 (UTC)[jibu]
Basi tutashirikiana!--Mwanaharakati (Longa) 14:28, 27 Machi 2009 (UTC)[jibu]
Mzee wangu, salaaam! Natumai ya kwamba unamwona huyo babu HBR namna anavyoanzisha makala zake bila maelezo. Akianzisha makala, basi ataweka picha tu bila elezo lolote lile. Hivi karibuni katunga makala tatu (ambazo zote zina picha tu bila maelezo!) Haivutii na wala sio vizuri! Nimeona ukijadiliana naye kwa kutumia Kijerumani - akheri uongee naye kwa Kijerumani, labda atakufahamu! Ni hilo tu, mzee wangu. Ni mimi kijana wako mpendwa,--Mwanaharakati (Longa) 06:05, 3 Aprili 2009 (UTC)[jibu]
Asante kwa kunidokeza kuna tatizo. umeona nilikuwa kimya maana niko safarini. Kesho kutwa narudi nyumbani nitafuatilia jambo hili. --Kipala (majadiliano) 19:38, 3 Aprili 2009 (UTC)[jibu]

Basi samahani kwa kukupa taarifa ukiwa safarini! Nitasubiri hadi hapo utakapofika nyumbani. Safari njema!--Mwanaharakati (Longa) 06:21, 4 Aprili 2009 (UTC)[jibu]


Kipala, salam. A) Pole kwa kazi ya ku-undo maandiko ya waharibifu wa Wikipedia! BE) Naona ushaanza kuanzisha makala za Kenya. CHE) Ningependa kuchangia, lakini ninataka nipewe mwangaza! Kila la kheri.--Mwanaharakati (Longa) 07:44, 8 Aprili 2009 (UTC)[jibu]

11,000

Mzee wangu, salaaaaam! Wikipedia yetu imefikisha makala 11,000! Ni furaha iliyoje? Basi tu, niseme tujitahidi kuendeleza na kushauriana kwa kila jambo litakalosaidia Wikipedia yetu kuwa juu! Kila la kheri.--Mwanaharakati (Longa) 15:50, 9 Aprili 2009 (UTC)[jibu]

Basi ni maendeleo kwelikweli. Je unaonaje kama tutaona ngazi inayofuata ambayo ni lakhi? Nimeweka kumbukumbu ukurasa wa matukio ya hivi karibuni. Kuhusu Kenya nahangaika bado kidogo sijui tuanzishe vigezo vya kata kiwilaya au kimkoa? Kata ni chache Kenya kuliko TZ tena wameanzisha wilaya nyingi na sina takwimu ni kata gani iliyokwenda wilaya gani. --Kipala (majadiliano) 17:33, 9 Aprili 2009 (UTC)[jibu]
Salam, Kipala. Kuhusu Kenya bado sina mwangaza unaonipa matumaini bila juhudi zako! Ukiona umepata sehemu yenye kurahisha habari, basi nionyeshe, nami nitatekeleza maramoja! Na hata kuhusu kuwekea vigezo - ni sawa! Basi endelea kutafuta njia mbadala itakayorahisisha kuandika makala hizo za Kenya! Ni mimi kijana wako mpendwa,--Mwanaharakati (Longa) 05:42, 11 Aprili 2009 (UTC)[jibu]

Subdivisions of Tanzania

Kipala, salam! Mzee wangu, naomba nisaidie kutafsiri hilo neno la hapo juu. Maana yake, nimeshindwa kabisa kulileta kwenye Kiswahili! Jioni njema.--Mwanaharakati (Longa) 14:46, 16 Aprili 2009 (UTC)[jibu]

Je siyo vitengo vya kiutawala vya TZ? --Kipala (majadiliano) 18:03, 16 Aprili 2009 (UTC)[jibu]
Kwa mujibu wa Wikipedia ya Kiingereza:
    • Tanzania has country subdivision as follows:
      • 26 regions of Tanzania (mkoa).
regions are subdivided into 98 districts of Tanzania (wilaya).
district are divided into wards.

Si unadhani itakuwa mwangaza?--Mwanaharakati (Longa) 06:12, 17 Aprili 2009 (UTC)[jibu]

Nadhani tafsiri ni hivi: Vitengo vikuu vya utawala nchini Tanzania ni mikoa 26. Kila mkoa una wilaya ndani yake, kwa jumla kuna wilaya 98. Wilaya hugawiwa kwa tarafa na kata (je tarafa bado ziko? Nilisikia ya kwamba serikali inataka kuzifuta). --Kipala (majadiliano) 20:23, 17 Aprili 2009 (UTC)[jibu]

Wikipedia ya Kiswahili

Hallo Kipala. Im Dezember 2003 habe ich mir die damalige Suaheli-Wikipedia angeschaut, und dabei bemerkt, dass dort noch gar kein enzyklopädisches Material vorhanden war. Es gab eigentlich nur zwei-drei "Artikel", die Text von woanders kopiert hatten, sowie einige weitere "Artikel", die nur die englische Übersetzung des Titels genannt haben. Am Anfang habe ich die Wikipedia nicht eingeloggt bearbeitet, so dass es schwierig ist, meine ersten Beiträge zu finden. Unter meinen IP-Adressen waren auf jeden Fall die Adressen, die mit "163.1.209" anfangen und mit ".239" bis ".245" aufhören. Der älteste Beitrag, den ich eindeutig mir zuordnen kann, ist die Erstellung des Artikels Kiesperanto am 7. Dezember 2003. Am 5. Februar 2004 wurde ich dann aktiver: Erst habe ich die drei Artikel Lugha iliyotengenezwa, Lugha asilia und Lugha saada ya kimataifa geschaffen, und dann die erste Erklärung zum Wikipedia-Projekt auf die Hauptseite gestellt:

"Wikipedia ni mradi wa lugha nyingi wa kutengeneza kamusi elezo kamili na sahihi ya maandishi huru. Ilianzishwa kwa Kiingereza mwezi wa kwanza mwaka 2001, na mwaka 2003 imeanzishwa kamusi hii kwa Kiswahili. Kusema kwamba ni maandishi huru maana yake ni kwamba kila mtu anaweza kuikuza na kuibadilisha, hata usipofahamu mambo ya kompyuta. Uweke "Edit this page" tu, halafu badilisha au ongeza maandiko."

Dabei hatte ich mir den Ausdruck "kamusi elezo" selber ausgedacht. Das Kamusi Project hat damals nur "kamusi" als Übersetzung von "encyclopedia" angegeben, und mein Deutsch-Suaheli-Wörterbuch hatte keine Übersetzung von "Enzyklopädie". Ich wollte einer Verwechslung von Wörterbuch und Enzyklopädie entgegenarbeiten (diese Verwechslung hatte ja schon dazu geführt, dass einige Artikel einfach aus der englischen Übersetzung des Wortes bestanden), und habe dafür den Begriff "kamusi elezo" geschaffen.

Am 19. Februar habe ich das erste Mal eingeloggt gearbeitet, und dabei die Artikel Hisabati und Hesabu erstellt bzw. enzyklopädisch gemacht. In der darauf folgenden Zeit habe ich mich bemüht herauszufinden, wie ich das Interface ins Suaheli übersetzen kann. Am 31. Mai 2004 war ich dann schon Administrator geworden, und konnte die MediaWiki-Texte übersetzen. Im Juni 2004 habe ich dann noch weiter Artikel wie Historia, Jumuia und Uislamu erstellt bzw. enzyklopädisch gemacht. Im Januar 2005 hat Neno (interessanterweise auch ein Esperantist) angefangen, zur Wikipedia beizutragen (sehr stark mit MediaWiki-Übersetzung), im September 2005 Ndesanjo und im Dezember 2005 du. Seit Ende 2005 kann man das Projekt als (eingeschränkt) aktiv bezeichnen. Bis Muddy im August 2007 aktiv wurde haben im Projekt allerdings eindeutig die Nicht-Muttersprachler überwogen (mit Ndesanjo als einziger Ausnahme). Auch jetzt kommen noch ca. die Hälfte der Beiträge von Nicht-Muttersprachlern.

Wenn du noch weitere Fragen hast, beantworte ich diese gerne. Marcos (majadiliano) 13:52, 25 Mei 2009 (UTC)[jibu]

Je, huu mjadala unahusu masuala ya Wikipedia kwa Kiswahili? Ikiwa unahusu Wikipedia hii, wengine hatutofaidika na nia ya mjadala huu kwa kufuatia kutojua lugha ya Kijerumani! Huruma ni kwamba Kipala siku hizi hapatikani.. Tafakari..--Mwanaharakati (Longa) 14:20, 25 Mei 2009 (UTC)[jibu]
Kipala aliniandikia kwenye Wikipedia ya Kijerumani na suala yake kuhusu historia ya Wikipedia ya Kiswahili. Nilianza kuandiku jibu katika ukarasa wake katika Wikipedia ya Kijerumani, na kwa hiyo nilitumia Kijerumani. Baadaye niliona kwamba alitaka nijibu kwenye ukarasa wake katika Wikipedia ya Kiswahili. Ili wengine waweze kuelewa niliandika nini, nitaitafsiri sasa:
Mwezi wa 12 mwaka 2003 niliangalia Wikipedia ya Kiswahili. Nikatambua kwamba yaliyomo hayakuwa habari za kamusi elezo. Kwa kweli kulikuwa na "makala" mbili au tatu tu, zilizokuwa na habari kutoka tovuti nyingine; aidha kulikuwa na "makala" chache zilizokuwa na tafsiri ya Kiingereza ya neno moja tu. Mwanzoni nilihariri bila kuingia. Kwa hiyo ni kigumu kupata hariri zangu za kwanza. Anuani za IP nilizozitumia kwa uhakika zilikuwa anuani zinazoanza na "163.1.209" na zinazokamili na ".239" hadi ".245". Hariri ya zamani zaidi ambayo ninajua kwamba ni yangu ni uundaji wa makala Kiesperanto tarehe 7 mwezi wa 12 mwaka 2003. Tarehe 5 mwezi wa pili mwaka 2004 nilianza kufanya kazi nyingi zaidi: Kwanza niliunda makala tatu Lugha iliyotengenezwa, Lugha asilia na Lugha saada ya kimataifa, baadaye nikaweka uelezaji wa kwanza kuhusu Wikipedia kwenye Ukarasa wa Mwanzo:
"Wikipedia ni mradi wa lugha nyingi wa kutengeneza kamusi elezo kamili na sahihi ya maandishi huru. Ilianzishwa kwa Kiingereza mwezi wa kwanza mwaka 2001, na mwaka 2003 imeanzishwa kamusi hii kwa Kiswahili. Kusema kwamba ni maandishi huru maana yake ni kwamba kila mtu anaweza kuikuza na kuibadilisha, hata usipofahamu mambo ya kompyuta. Uweke "Edit this page" tu, halafu badilisha au ongeza maandiko."
Msemo "kamusi elezo" niliubuni mwenyewe. Siku zile Kamusi Project ilikuwa na tafsiri "kamusi" tu kwa "encyclopedia", na kamusi yangu ya Kijerumani-Kiswahili haikuwa na tafsiri kwa "Enzyklopädie". Nilitaka kuzuia ukorogo kati ya kamusi (yaani kitabu chenye tafsiri za maneno) na kamusi elezo (yaani kitabu chenye maelezo kuhusu mambo mbalimbali; ukorogo huu tayari ilisababisha kwamba kulikuwa na makala zenye tafsiri za maneno kwa Kiingereza tu), kwa hiyo nilibuni msemo "kamusi elezo".
Tarehe 19 mwezi wa pilli nilihariri kwa mara ya kwanza kwa kutumia akaunti yangu: Nilibuni makala Hisabati na nilifanya makala Hesabu iwe na habari za kielezo. Baadaye nilijaribu kung'amua jinsi ya kutafsiri kusano (yaani "interface") kwa Kiswahili. Tarehe 31 mwezi wa 5 mwaka 2004 tayari nilikuwa mkabidhi na niliweza kutafsiri ujumbe za mfumo. Mwezi wa sita mwaka 2004 niliendelea kubuni makala au kufanya makala ziwe na habari za kielezo, kwa mfano Historia, Jumuia na Uislamu. Mwezi wa kwanza mwaka 2005 Neno (ambaye pia ni Mwesperanto) alishirikiana na Wikipedia ya Kiswahili (hasa alitafsiri ujumbe za mfumo), mwezi wa tisa mwaka 2005 Ndesanjo akaja, na mwezi wa 12 mwaka 2005 Kipala. Tangu mwisho wa mwaka 2005 mradi unaweza kuitwa mradi wenye uhai. Mpaka Muddy alishirikiana mwezi wa 8 mwaka 2007 wageni (yaani watu wasioongea Kiswahili kama lugha ya mama) walifanya sehemu kubwa ya kazi. Bado sasa karibu nusu ya hariri zinatoka kwa wageni. Marcos (majadiliano) 23:26, 26 Mei 2009 (UTC)[jibu]
Hahaha. Historia safi. Hongera kwa kuweza kuwa na kumbukumbu zote hizo. Haya, mpaka sasa ni Mswahili pekee niliyebakia katika mradi huu. Wageni nao wanaanza kupotea (kwa kufuatia kuhama kikazi)! Kwa sasa ninampango wa kufanya mapinduzi ya ukurasa wa mwanzo wa Wikipedia. Ukiwa una muda, tafadhali naomba utembelee mjadala unaofanyika hapa. Nitashukuru sana kama utasaidia mawazo mawili matatu juu ya hili. Kingine: Unaonaje ukitumia historia hiyo uliyoitaja kuhusu hatua za Wikipedia hii - katika makala ya Wikipedia ya Kiswahili? Itakuwa safi sana. Kila la kheri..--Mwanaharakati (Longa) 05:41, 27 Mei 2009 (UTC)[jibu]
Umeshaona ya kwamba kwa sasa nina nafasi ndogo lakini sijaacha wikipedia nimefuatilia na Marcos nikifurahia ya kwamba alijibu kwa kirefu. Naona ni kumbukumbu muhimu ya hatua za kwanza za wiki hii. Mimi mwenyewe nilipoanza kuchangia ilikuwa bado mmea mchanga mno (makala 149 pekee) lakini muundo uliwekwa tayari ilikuwa msingi mzuri kwa kujenga. Nitaangalia nafasi ya kujumlisha taarifa ya Marcos kwa makala husika. --Kipala (majadiliano) 20:30, 27 Mei 2009 (UTC)[jibu]
Tutakuwa wenyekushukuru endapo utapata muda wa kukopa hayo maelezo na kuyaweka kwenye makala ile! Kila la kheri.--Mwanaharakati (Longa) 05:33, 28 Mei 2009 (UTC)[jibu]

Mwanaharakati awe bureaucrat

Nimemteua Mwanaharakati achaguliwe kuwa msimamizi mkuu pamoja nasi (b'crat). Naomba upige kura kwenye ukurasa wa wakabidhi. Asante! --Baba Tabita (majadiliano) 07:13, 28 Mei 2009 (UTC)[jibu]

Ningekushukuru ikiwa unaweza kuzaidia kurekebisha ukurasa wa Botswana. Niliwahi kujaribu kuongeza information walakini nikawa kufanya makosa na sahisi ukurasa huo huonekani vizuri. Nakushukuru--90.130.222.146 21:15, 11 Juni 2009 (UTC)[jibu]

Translation

  • Can you translate this paragraph to Kiswahili Language?
    • Bartın Merkez, is the capital city of the Bartın County, Turkey. It located in Black Sea Region. It's population holds 121860 people.

History: Bartın's first name is Parthenios changed to Parthenia. After years, city's name changed to last situation, Bartın.
Picture:The yellow area shows Bartın Merkez.

Iko tayari nisipokosei --Kipala (majadiliano) 09:54, 17 Juni 2009 (UTC)[jibu]

Ukurasa mpya wa mwanzo

Kipala, salaam! Haya, ukurasa mpya wa Wikipedia ya Kiswahili, leo hii umefikia siku yake!!! Nimebadilisha tayari. Ahsante kwa ushirikiano wako. Wako kijana, Muddyb, au,--Mwanaharakati (Longa) 14:00, 20 Juni 2009 (UTC)[jibu]

Mzee wangu salaam! Labda ungetazama sehemu iliyoandikwa:

Wikipedia kwa lugha nyingine

Chini yake kuna maelezo yameandikwa "bofya hapa kwa orodha ya wikipedia zote" kama sikosei...--Mwanaharakati (Longa) 16:14, 23 Juni 2009 (UTC)[jibu]

Jimbo la Ardahan

Mzee wangu, salaam! Kumradhi kwa kuchelewa kukujibu. Nilikuwa sipo kidogo. Kuhusu Jimbo la Ardahan - siyo mimi niliyehamisha kutoka mji kwenda jimbo. Kuna kijana mmoja wa Kituruki asiyejua Kiswahili kabisa alijishaua kuhamisha makala za miji na kuzipeleka jimboni ilhali zenyewe zilikuwa zikitaja miji ya majimbo ya kwao. Kwa kuwa yeye alikuwa Mturuki, bila kujua maana ya maelezo yaliyoandikwa - akahamisha makala zile! Hata hivyo, sikumezea mate, nilimweleza Oliver juu ya tendo alilolifanya, na Oliver akashauri tumwache, ila ni lazima aambiwe asihamishe ile miji kwenda jimboni. Na swali lako, ule ni mji na sio JIMBO! Mimi nitarudisha kama vile inavyotakiwa. Halafu nina swali moja, Uturuki wao hutumia majimbo au mikoa? Wako kijana mtiifu,--Mwanaharakati (Longa) 05:48, 9 Julai 2009 (UTC)[jibu]

Mimi ningesema ni mikoa; nchi yote ina maeneo 81 yanayoitwa "valilik" kila moja ina mkuu anayeitwa "Vali"; chini yake kuna maeneo yanayoitwa "kaymakamlık" (pia:ilçe) chini ya mkuu ambaye ni "Kaymakan". Ngazi ya chini ni miji na kata/ vijiji chini ya viongozi wanaochaguliwa na wananchi lakini ngazi za juu wanateuliwa na serikali.
Kwa hiyo ningesema valilik ni mkoa (hata kama kwa Kiingereza wanaweza kusema pia "province" halafu hata kama kilugha "valilik" asili yake ni sawa na Kiswahili "wilaya". Ila tu jinsi tunavyozoea wilaya Afrika ya Mashariki hii valilik ni zaidi mkoa na ngazi chini yake ni kama wilaya yetu. --Kipala (majadiliano) 08:03, 9 Julai 2009 (UTC)[jibu]
Sawa. Lakini ukitazama Ardahan Province utakuta kitu kama Region: Eastern Anatolia Region, Turkey. Au waseme Marmara Region, Mediterranean Region, Turkey. Je, hapo napo nita tafsiri vipi? Hii ndiyo sababu iliyopelekea mimi kuita Majimbo kwa kufuatia "mkoa" unaonekana kuwa mdogo sana kwa maelezo yaliyoandikwa kule kwenye enwiki. Naomba soma makala ya enwiki na kisha nifahamishe kabla sijaendelea zaidi!--Mwanaharakati (Longa) 08:44, 9 Julai 2009 (UTC)[jibu]
Tazama hii kutoka http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Anatolia_Region
"Eastern Anatolia Region (Turkish: Doğu Anadolu Bölgesi) encompasses the eastern provinces of Turkey, and it is one of the 7 non-administrative subdivisions used for census purposes"
Maana ni kama "kanda" haina maana ya kiutawala au kisiasa kama Tanzania "mikoa ya kanda ya kusini" au ya "nyanda za juu za kusini" au "mikoa ya pwani". Wanatumia "kanda" hizi kwa kusudi la sensa na takwimu tu.--Kipala (majadiliano) 14:50, 9 Julai 2009 (UTC)[jibu]
Basi mzee wangu haina tabu. Nitahamisha makala zote kwenda mkoani. Sikuwa najua namna ya kutaja zile. Hasa kwa mchanganyo. Kumbe ile region kwa kule inataja kanda? Basi ahsante sana. Kila la kheri.--Mwanaharakati (Longa) 08:01, 11 Julai 2009 (UTC)[jibu]

Flowerparty awe mkabidhi

Nimemteua Flowerparty achaguliwe kuwa mkabidhi pamoja nasi. Naomba upige kura kwenye ukurasa wa Wakabidhi. Ahsante! --Mwanaharakati (Longa) 10:21, 9 Julai 2009 (UTC)[jibu]

Kuondoa haki za usimamizi kwa baadhi ya watumiaji

Kipala, salam! Unatakiwa utoe mawazo yako juu ya kuondoshwa kwa haki za usimamizi kwa baadhi ya watumiaji wasionekana kwa kipindi kirefu sana. Orodha hiyo unaweza kuipata hapa. Ahsante na kila la kheri.--Mwanaharakati (Longa) 16:10, 10 Julai 2009 (UTC)[jibu]

Hongera ya makala 12,000

Kipala, salam! Hongera kwa kusukuma Wikipedia yetu na kufikisha makala zaidi ya 12,000! Ninatumainia kuona michango yako mengine kibao kuliko hiyo uliyoifanya hapo awali!. Siku takii lolote lile, isikuwa kheri ya maisha. Wako kijana mtiifu, MuddybA.K.A.--Mwanaharakati (Longa) 13:00, 25 Julai 2009 (UTC)[jibu]

Hongera ya makala 12,000

Kipala, salam! Hongera kwa kusukuma Wikipedia yetu na kufikisha makala zaidi ya 12,000! Ninatumainia kuona michango yako mengine kibao kuliko hiyo uliyoifanya hapo awali!. Siku takii lolote lile, isikuwa kheri ya maisha. Wako kijana mtiifu, MuddybA.K.A.--Mwanaharakati (Longa) 13:00, 25 Julai 2009 (UTC)[jibu]

Bangla Desh?

Hi Kipala! Nina swali: Bangla Desh au Bangladesh? Umeanzisha hivyo. Flowerparty 19:21, 28 Julai 2009 (UTC)[jibu]

Asante kwa kuona tatizo. Si kitu sana ni majina yote mawili yanayoonekana lakini Bangladesh ni kawaida zaidi. Nimeisahihisha. --Kipala (majadiliano) 20:10, 28 Julai 2009 (UTC)[jibu]

Ok cool, ninakubali. Pia, asante kwa ukarimu :) Flowerparty 20:26, 28 Julai 2009 (UTC)[jibu]

71 Wilaya ya Kenya

Hi, just a note, I wrote mbegu for the 71 wilaya of Kenya (for instance, Wilaya ya Meru Kati). I will wait until I see information regarding the disposition of the 234 wilaya, to write an updated set of stubs. Cheers. --Mr Accountable (majadiliano) 11:10, 3 Agosti 2009 (UTC)[jibu]

Eire +

Thanks for your comments on Wilaya za Eire; I have made the suggested corrections. I am setting the AWB to create the mbegu for the Wilaya now. At this time, I have some lists of mbegu to create, viz Miji ya Kanada, Majimbo ya Brazil and the like. As far as Swahili is concerned, the language is very nice, very interesting, and I am very pleased to be here working and learning. It is a little frustrating, of course, but that is only because I am taking it seriously. One problem I have is that I am not perfectly certain, on the level of encyclopedic work, as to exactly what the title of a geo list article should be. So, in the future, when I prepare a geo table, for instance the regions of the Ukraine or the states of Austria, would it be alright if I wrote a message here asking what the best title of the list or article should be, and then create the table article after I have an answer? I mean, it is easy enough to know how to speak correctly in a casual setting, but as this is an encylopedic setting, I would rather check with somoeone instead of struggling with the title and then having to move the article after it is created. .... I assume you and other administrators would think this is a good idea, so I ask if the tables of Austrian states and Ukrainian regions now at Mtumiaji:Mr Accountable/Sandbox 2 could be checked and then the proper title written here. (Then en: links to the original data are on the page.) Thanks. --Mr Accountable (majadiliano) 16:13, 6 Agosti 2009 (UTC)[jibu]

Ad limina apostolorum

Ndugu, nafurahi kusikia umerudi. Kimya chako cha muda mrefu kilinitia wasiwasi juu ya afya yako. Hongera kwa ziara yako Roma. Nadhani umefurahia hasa kaburi la mtume Paulo kama mimi nilivyolifurahia mwaka huu mwezi wa 5 kuliko mara zote nilizokwenda huko. Asante kwa kukamilisha jibu la Muddyb kuhusu picha. Sasa naelewa la kufanya kwa picha ambazo ziko katika wiki fulani lakini si katika Commons. Shalom! --Riccardo Riccioni (majadiliano) 10:39, 7 Agosti 2009 (UTC)[jibu]

Serikali

Hi, thanks for helping with the geography tables of Austria and Ukraine. .. I've started with putting together a table of government ministries and a list of "Federal institutions of Tanzania", please see Mtumiaji:Mr Accountable/Sandbox 2#Tebu; it's modeled on en:Federal institutions of Brazil, as well as those of Tanzania and Cambodia (which I myself started). As the list continues to be filled out, I may need advice on Kiswahili government agency names, especially when not provided directly at the website. Thanks again for your help. --Mr Accountable (majadiliano) 00:53, 10 Agosti 2009 (UTC)[jibu]

The 100 Greatest Singers of All Time

Mzee wangu, salam. Ninashida ya kutaka kueleza tafsiri ya maneno haya:

    • The 100 Greatest Singers of All Time

Wakisema "of all time" wanamaanisha "karne" (miaka 100). Ima niendelee kutafsiri kama "Waimbaji Bora wa Muda Wote" au "Waimbaji Bora wa Karne"? Ipi ni bora zaidi... Wako kijana mtiifu,--Muddyb MwanaharakatiLonga 09:42, 10 Agosti 2009 (UTC)[jibu]

Wanachosema ni uwongo lakini wanamaanisha "Waimbaji bora wa karne zote" au "nyakati zote". Lakini sidhani ya kwamba ni kweli. Hakuna anayeweza kujua waimbaji bora wa karne zote maana sisi tunajua wachache tu walio wengi wa zamani hatuna habari juu ya hao hasa kama ni watu wa zamani sana au watu wa utamaduni usio na mwandishi.
Je unataka kushughulika orodha ya Rollingstone? (http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/24161972/page/103). Hii ni kitu cha kimarekani kabisa! Hawajui kitu nje ya Western Pop music (kama ni kwa Kiingereza) halafu hawana habari za muziki wa Afrika wala Ulaya bara wala Asia. . . Ukitaka kushughulika mambo haya labda kwa kichwa kama "Orodha ya waimbaji bora kufuatana na rollingstone" --Kipala (majadiliano) 16:48, 11 Agosti 2009 (UTC)[jibu]
Mmmhh, shuuu! Kweli mkubwa dawa! Naona unachosema ni cha kweli kabisaaa. Wao hawataji Waafrika wala Waasia. Lakini pia wameweza kukonga nyoyo za watu na kuwasadikisha kwamba ni kweli waimbaji bora wa muda wote kama jinsi alivyokuwa Wolfgang Mozart? Basi ahsante sana kwa maelezo yako yaliyojawa na msingi wa ukweli wa mambo. Nitaita kama jinsi ulivyosema hapo juu! Kila la kheri.--Muddyb MwanaharakatiLonga 06:34, 12 Agosti 2009 (UTC)[jibu]

Kiswahili wikilugha ya kwanza ya Afrika

Ndugu, hongera kwako na kwa wenzetu wengine kwa kuchangia kufanya Kiswahili kuwa lugha ya Afrika yenye kurasa nyingi zaidi! Tumepiku Afrikaans! Tuendelee hivi kukuza lugha yetu! --Riccardo Riccioni (majadiliano) 04:47, 16 Agosti 2009 (UTC)[jibu]

13,000

Kipala, salam. Mzee wangu, si umeiona hiyo namba? Hongera kwa kutusukuma na kutushauri kwa muda wote.--Muddyb MwanaharakatiLonga 07:13, 18 Agosti 2009 (UTC)[jibu]

Jamani, nashangaa! Hongera kwako na sisi sote!--Kipala (majadiliano) 08:39, 18 Agosti 2009 (UTC)[jibu]

14,000

Kipala, salaaaam! Ninapenda kukutaarifu kwamba Wikipedia yetu imefikisha zaidi ya makala 14,000! Ni matumaini yangu kwamba tutafika elfu 15,000? Mmmh, ni safari ndefu! Labda hii kidogo inakukumbusha enzi zako za kusukuma gurudumu hili kutoka 140 hadi 1,000? Haikuwa kazi rahisi, lakini uliweza! Basi hongera kwa kuliwezesha na kila la kheri katika maisha! Ni mimi kijana wako mtiifu,--Muddyb MwanaharakatiLonga 14:42, 11 Septemba 2009 (UTC)[jibu]

mradi wa Google kwa ajili ya wikipedia yetu

Mzee Kipala, salaam!
Nimepata mawasiliano kutoka Christine Moon huko Palo Alto, California. Yeye anafanya kazi kwa shirika la Google, nao wameanza kupanga mradi au huduma kwa ajili ya wanafunzi wa vyuo vikuu nchini Tanzania na Kenya ili waelimishwe kuandika makala kwa wikipedia ya Kiswahili. Kumbe!
Christine sasa ametualika kumwandikia maoni yetu, angalia tovuti hiyo:
http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AbIPJ9Nv6udZZGd6MndwcGdfMzFkODNzOG0zYw&hl=en
Bahati mbaya yeye haelewi Kiswahili, kwa hiyo itakuwa lazima kumwandikia kwa Kiingereza. Asante kwa michango yako!
Ni wako katika ujenzi wa lugha yetu, --Baba Tabita (majadiliano) 08:00, 10 Oktoba 2009 (UTC)[jibu]

Alleluya na Alhamdulillah! Basi hoja zuri, nitachangia google.docs karibuni (sasa hivi bado tuko nyumba ya wageni hapa Tehran tukisubiri kuingia nyumba). Asante ---Kipala (majadiliano) 20:36, 10 Oktoba 2009 (UTC)[jibu]
Nafurahi kusikia uko wapi. Nilikuogopea tena. Kazi njema!--Riccardo Riccioni (majadiliano) 21:12, 10 Oktoba 2009 (UTC)[jibu]

mkutano wa Skype kesho kutwa

Mzee, salaam! Jumatatu tarehe 19, saa kuminamoja za mchana/jioni (yaani saa za Nairobi) tutajaribu kukutana kwenye Skype kwa ajili ya majadiliano kuhusu kuwahamasisha wanafunzi wa vyuo vikuu nchini Kenya na Tanzania kutumia na kuichangia makala wikipedia ya Kiswahili. Mpaka sasa tupo wanne: Christine wa Google (mooncheech), Sj (metasj), Muddyb (mohammed.lupinga) nami (stegling). Ni tumaini langu kuwa utakuwepo. Wasalaam, --Baba Tabita (majadiliano) 18:56, 17 Oktoba 2009 (UTC)[jibu]

majadiliano kuhusu utafsiri wa istilahi

Mzee Kipala, salaam! Nimeanzisha majadiliano mapya kuhusu utafsiri wa istilahi ya wikipedia yetu hapa. Naomba uyaangalie na kuchangia maoni yako. Asante! --Baba Tabita (majadiliano) 09:36, 23 Oktoba 2009 (UTC)[jibu]

Uingereza

Nimeongeza pendekezo lingine kwenye makala ya Uingereza, na kutoa mawazo kwenye ukurasa wa majadiliano. Ni kweli kwamba hii si jambo rahisi! Lloffiwr (majadiliano) 18:13, 7 Novemba 2009 (UTC)[jibu]

Wikipedia:Makala ya wiki

Mzee Kipala, salam! Kumradhi kwa usumbufu. Ningependa uendelee kwa sababu kuna kesho! Nenda kwa Wikipedia:Makala ya wiki na mambo yatakuwa mazuri kabisaaa! Kila la kheri.--Muddyb MwanaharakatiLonga 14:24, 10 Novemba 2009 (UTC)[jibu]

Kigezo cha jaribio

Salaam kutoka Ulaya. Nimejaribu kuongeza kigezo cha jaribio kama nilivyoeleza kwenye ukurasa wa jumuia. Sijapata 'feedback' kwa hiyo siwezi kumaliza shughuli. Umewahi kutoa mawazo kuhusu mada hii kwa hiyo nimeona vyema nikuulize unisaidie kwa kutoa mawazo tena. Lloffiwr (majadiliano) 13:58, 21 Novemba 2009 (UTC)[jibu]

Usaidizi katika shindano

Kipala, salam. Ni tumaini langu kwamba umeona mabadiliko na maongezeko kadha wa kadha yaliyofanywa na wanafunzi hawa. Swali ni kwamba, tunaruhusiwa kuchangia au kusawazisha makala walizotunga? Au tuendelee kuwaacha tu wenyewe wafanye-wafanyavyo? Wako,--Muddyb MwanaharakatiLonga 09:18, 27 Novemba 2009 (UTC)[jibu]

Swali zuri. Nimesahihisha makala ile moja ya Maungano ya Afrika kwa sababu nilishindwa kuisoma. Bado naona ni makala mabaya. Je nimefanya kosa nilipobandika kigezo cha FUTA? Sijafuatalia kwa undani je tunawapata hawa wanafunzi kwenye orodha fulani?
Au unaonaje kama si vile tuwape kigezo (Mshiriki wa mashindano....) ila tu baadaye tunahitaji kusafisha igezo hivi vyote?
Je ni sawa kuweka mapendekezo ya ufutaji kama kwa makala mengine (yaani nisipojua yeye ni mmoja wa mashindano??)
Eti Muddy unajua wewe kupeleka maswali haya kwa wenzetu wengine? Mimi nabanwa sana muda; kuna shughuli; katikati dakika tano ninaposubiri tu halafu naangalia wikipedia kama sasa ila sijui baada nukta mtu anakuja --Kipala (majadiliano) 10:06, 27 Novemba 2009 (UTC)[jibu]
Haya, nitamwuliza SJ. Yeye ndiye mkuu na mratibu wa vigezo na kila kitu kwenye shindano hili! Pia, nimekuwa nikifuta makala mbalimbali pindi nionapo haziko sawa. Hofu yangu ni kwamba endapo zitakuwa nyingi na hatutakuwa na uwezo tena wa kuchunguza mojamoja, basi futa ukiona siyo. Pia, hawajui hata namna ya kujibu ujumbe kwa mtu aliyemwandikia - hii nayo shida na haitakuwa rahisi tena kuendelea kuwashauri ilhali wajibu! Pole na kazi. Ni yuleyule kijana wako,--Muddyb MwanaharakatiLonga 10:12, 27 Novemba 2009 (UTC)[jibu]

Uchaguzi Mpya

Salam, Kipala. Unaombwa upige kura katika ukurasa wa wakabidhi wa Wikipedia. Mmoja kati ya wachangiaji wenzetu (Mr Accountable) amejiteua kuwa mkabidhi! Ili kumpgia kura, tafadhali fungua hapa. Ahsante sana.--Muddyb MwanaharakatiLonga 18:27, 28 Novemba 2009 (UTC)[jibu]

Mwongozo

Wow, the tutorial looks great. --Mr Accountable (majadiliano) 00:13, 6 Desemba 2009 (UTC)[jibu]

Yeah. lets wait if the "looks" help some reader. As long as the guys keep on dumping unfinished google-translate as articles... hmmm.

Miti

Salaam nafurahia kuona ya kwamba siku hizi umeangalia hata mahali ambako ndege hulala au kutafuta kivuli! --Kipala (majadiliano) 07:31, 10 Desemba 2009 (UTC)[jibu]

Salaam. Nafurahi kama unapenda vile ninafanya. Nafikiri mimi ni mwanabiolojia wa pekee ambaye anaandikia wikipedia ya Kiswahili makala. Kwa hivyo lazima niandike kuhusu mada yoyote ya biolojia. ChriKo (majadiliano) 21:53, 10 Desemba 2009 (UTC)[jibu]
Na kwanini tusijivunie kuwa na mwanabiolojia pekee kwenye wikipedia yetu? Basi hongera!!! Na ni tegemeo letu kuona mengi.--Muddyb MwanaharakatiLonga 06:41, 11 Desemba 2009 (UTC)[jibu]
Asante sana Muddyb. ChriKo (majadiliano) 22:03, 11 Desemba 2009 (UTC)[jibu]

Learning to use Submission pages

Many people need to be reminded to a) put the badge on their userpage, and b) follow the link from that badge!

See for instance Ogeya bphase's contribs. None of them are on his submissions page... On the "All submissions" page, try clicking on the "contribs" link next to the name of each participant, especially the ones with empty contributions - many of them are contributing but not taking credit. We can help them do it right the first time, then they will get it the second time. Sj (majadiliano)

Uhabeshi

Salaam, mzee wangu. Naomba uangalie tofauti hizi katika historia ya ukurasa wa Uhabeshi (yaani Ethiopia). Bahati mbaya, makala nzuri imefutwa na makala nyingine nzuri ikaingizwa. Je, utaweza kuunganisha miswada hiyo miwili? Nimeangalia nikashindwa. Pole! Hii KWC inaanza kunihangaisha saaana. Wasalaam, --Baba Tabita (majadiliano) 09:51, 29 Desemba 2009 (UTC)[jibu]

Picha, michoro, etc

Hi, with MuddyB's encouragement I have started a functional category tree for image files here, see Jamii:Picha za Wikipedia. I know in the past we have not had much trouble with our small number of files, but there are quite a few by now and with new users the list is growing faster. There are about 200 uncategorized files now, down from 800+ a couple of weeks ago, but there are countless un-permissioned files. As you probably know, the legal disposition of picture file copyrights (along with biographies of living persons) is an important part of the Wikipedia management agenda. So, I am humbly asking that you join the effort and set an example by getting the permission and putting the category for new files. I have to go around and talk to new users about putting copyrights on files, and eventually we will definitely have to use a 7-day or 21-day deletion tag for unpermissioned pictures. Most all of these unpermissioned pictures have no potential problem with the copyright, of course, but it is true that as the Google project continues, the real Wiki world is catching up with us here, just like at en or de etc, alas, and I know you're probably not interested in having tagged pictures. In case you haven't talked to Muddy about it, we are still quite unsure as to when we will need to start tagging pictures, but it will be after we talk to new users about it at length; maybe by a few months from now we will have a very firm policy functioning. Cheers. --Mr Accountable (majadiliano) 14:43, 8 Januari 2010 (UTC)[jibu]

OK thats fine with me. In the past I have probably not always made sure that I filled out the form. I have worked quite a bit localising (kuswahilisha) graphics from other wikis relabeling them (inserting Swahili text in maps etc) or also worked with cuttings (like today the handshake - did I label it?? of Condi Rice because the standard handshakes on commons are just wazungu hands) from other wikis / or reworking the stars image which was a bit weak in the original from commons.
Do you know a way to prevent uploads without putting a label? I would prefer that for my own weak memory and for others as well. We will contine to have very untrained newscomers from TZ / EAK backgrounds who may also disappear gain as long as access to the web is so difficult.
I feel it also important to have our labeling in Swahili. Yaani tunaweza kutumia picha zote kutoka pande zote za wikipedia; naona tutumie faida ya copyrights zote kama ni US au Ufaransa nakadhalika. Tuko wachache mno ili tucopy masharti mareeeefu ya kisheria kutoka penginepo. Tuelewane: Kama picha iko mahal basi tutumie, na tuweke labels safi. --Kipala (majadiliano) 19:31, 8 Januari 2010 (UTC)[jibu]
Hi, please don't worry about any problems with current pictures ... I was writing to give you a heads up on the pichas and to get some support, and to let you know that we definitely have some file categories now. ... I myself have time to start putting extant permissions forms on most pictures, just to square them away irregardless of whether the message template is properly translated yet - I'll leave that set of translations and implementations to you and the others. In looking at your picha contributions I will be able to get most of it done, I'll let you know if I can't figure it out. The collection of images that has accrued since the beginning of sw is manageable, but it doesn't make sense to continue with just uploading them and using them, (as I myself have done) because there's 10s of new uploads / day. MuddyB said that he would do something about picha upload infomation, but it's too busy for now. The sooner this is done the sooner I can get back to writing sets of stubs (cercles of Mali, states of India, cities of Finland, ...). ... As far as preventing uploads w/o labels, I think in practice this is done by tagging them after they have been improperly uploaded. I wouldn't worry about any pictures currently on sw.wikipedia, but there would come a statistical point (involving influx vs manual sorting capacity) after which unlabeled uploads would simply be tagged and then would be lost by attrition - effectively preventing uploads without sufficient labels in a retroactive manner, like on the other wikipediai. --Mr Accountable (majadiliano) 01:35, 9 Januari 2010 (UTC)[jibu]
+ We are relatively low profile, page-visit-wise, so the disposition of permissions tranferred from other Wikipedia does not seem to require detailed examination at this time; and, the actual exposure of material here as compared other Wikipedias (which are in the top 5 of respective national Alexa ratings) is not of great moment, but copyright management is a prime concern nonetheless, thus MuddyB has asked me to spend time with it. --Mr Accountable (majadiliano) 01:54, 9 Januari 2010 (UTC)[jibu]
+ ! Hi, are you here now? I created a list on my Automated WikiBrowser, easier than I thought, of User contributions:Kipala, filter for pichas, count=432; in the case of your pictures I am guessing that the set of files lacks problems, so I may as well just label each one with the simple GFDL license and then continue with the same 432 and further differentiate principally with labels 'English Wikipedia GFDL w/disclaimers' (for simple uploads of en images; label phrase 'with disclaimers' helps include extant minor variations in the original's GNU labeling back on en), 'Own work all rights released (Public domain)' and 'Own work copyleft attribution required' (for modified and translated images). Let me know what you think, I should be available here now that holidays are over. --Mr Accountable (majadiliano) 03:51, 9 Januari 2010 (UTC)[jibu]
Re: Msaada: Again I am impressed. --Mr Accountable (majadiliano) 14:31, 11 Januari 2010 (UTC)[jibu]

Asante sana kwa moyo.

Bw. Kipala, nimesoma mchango wako katika makala yangu ya 'Ruiru' na ninakushukuru sana kwa moyo ulionipa. Ninazidi kutia bidii na ninaamini Mungu yu nami.

Wako, Samson Maosa

Kisii, Kenya

Bw. Kipala, kulingana na majadiliano kuhusu makala ya Kisii, Kenya, nimevirekebisha vigezo vilivyokuwa na makosa. Pia nimeunda ukrasa mpya Kisii (Kenya) kulingana na mtindo wa Kiswahili na kuuelekeza kwa makala haya. Isitoshe, nimejaribu kukikuza kipengele cha virejeleo. Unaonaje?

Mwanafunzi Samson Maosa.

Usafishaji baada ya shindano

Salaam, mzee wangu. Namshukuru Mungu kwamba shindano limemalizika. Sasa naona tuanze kazi ya kusafisha ... Nimeanza kutafuta makala zilizoanzishwa, hasa Novemba, bila kuandikwa - angalia Wikipedia:Makala_kwa_ufutaji. Pia, nimeanza kutumia vigezo vya {{mergeto}} na {{mergefrom}}, k.m. katika Thika Wilaya au Mlima Kenya. Haya, tusonge mbele. Wasalaam, --Baba Tabita (majadiliano) 03:58, 30 Januari 2010 (UTC)[jibu]

Tahajia

Thanks, I was puzzled by that word "uneo"; I copied the sentence from another article. All fixed now, thanks again. --Mr Accountable (majadiliano) 08:56, 29 Machi 2010 (UTC)[jibu]

gov.tz

Yes, thanks for the note, the profiles look ok, I had tried to work with the other profiles (right hand column) at that gov.tz page but the links came back "Reported Attack Site" on my Mozilla Firefox. There doesn't seem to be any problem with the new links. --Mr Accountable (majadiliano) 06:34, 31 Machi 2010 (UTC)[jibu]

Why don't we have infoboxes for Regions of Tanzania, like for Jimbo la Adrar (which was created by MuddyB?) I am certainly ready to implement these. And then could contiue with Kenya and USA. --Mr Accountable (majadiliano) 03:46, 2 Aprili 2010 (UTC)[jibu]

Advice

Hi, should it be Jamii:Ghuba ya San Fransisko or Jamii:Ghuba la San Fransisko? --Mr Accountable (majadiliano) 16:56, 11 Aprili 2010 (UTC)[jibu]

Hi, I would go for "Hori ya San Francisco" - ghuba (ya) is a bit larger ("gulf"). Cf San_Francisco where we have, however, "hori la" ( I have not been consistent with this word - it is one of the words where we have both forms, I think! See " Hori ya Chesapeake" where I unfortunately mixed both . . ); As for the City I`d also rather go for the local spelling with geographical names in general, except for places where we have a real Swahili form (Uingereza, Ufaransa...) --Kipala (majadiliano) 18:20, 11 Aprili 2010 (UTC)[jibu]
So, for instance, it may be a good idea to go to Jamii:British Kolumbia and change every instance of "Kolumbia" to "Columbia" using AWB? --Mr Accountable (majadiliano) 11:33, 13 Aprili 2010 (UTC)[jibu]
Not my talks, but I might intercept the talking. If you need to change the word Kolumbia to Columbia, then consider to change also Mexiko to Mexico! Cheers.--MwanaharakatiLonga 12:42, 13 Aprili 2010 (UTC)[jibu]
Karibu Muddy! I am not sure about this but I would stick with Kolumia for the country name. When I started the country entries which I mostly did, I did a lot of research. Some of the "official" sites give lists of names for most countries - which differ, however: between TUKI, BAKITA and other lists (like: Kamusi Hai) are differences. Generally all these lists try to "swahilize" names - omitting "C" for example. I found that some of these name forms looked very artificial and google showed that they are hardly used ("Ginikweta" e.g.). So I confess that I sometimes used my own judgement which form to use (and sometimes to go for a form none of the other lists had).
I always did several redirects from all other forms known to me, for example I did "Ekwetorio Gini", "Ginekweta" redirecting to "Guinea ya Ikweta"; au: "Ginebisau", "Guiné-Bissau" redirecting to "Guinea Bisau".
Soon I encountered the next problem when started on the capital cities. There is just no "official" list for these - With the articles about cities we are ahead of Tuki and the other institutions. That is where i decided to stick usually to local forms. Obviously there is the question what to do when the locals say "Maskva", write in Cyrillic script "Moskva" and probably most most Africans use English "Moscow"! Should I write it "Moskau" (like in German) or "Mosko" ? In this case I went for Moscow (because most Waswahili dont know cyrillic); with languages written in Latin script I rather took the local form (like French, Spanish) and did not try to write the English pronounciation of a French word: so I write "Paris", and not "Peris" (englisch pronounciation) nor "Pari" (french pronounciation); I write Bordeaux (not "Bordo").
My advice:
  • Country names; Swahili names if there is a real one (Ujerumani, Marekani); else according to some "Swahilized" form - but with all possible redirects so that people who look for the country will get it.
  • Provinces / Majimbo only go for translationin cases where we have an actual use of it (I found somewhere "Saksonia" for Sachsen ( English: Saxony)), otherwise stay with the local name.
  • cities: Always the local name UNLESS the few cities which may have real Swahili name.
I am not a big fan to write English pronounciation in Swahili form, because English have big problems pronouncing foreign words, and I also think of the Swahli speakers in Francophone Africa (Kongo!!) who hopefully start to use internet and we maybe exclude them by going for English-Swahili spelling. What do you think? --Kipala (majadiliano) 15:55, 13 Aprili 2010 (UTC)[jibu]

New York miji, New York kata

Hi, thanks, I am aware of some difference between mji and kata from working w/Mwanaharakati on some Tanzania articles. I am not sure what to do. In my recent work on the cities, towns, townships and boroughs of New Jersey, the different forms of government in the state are explained quite clearly in lists and articles linked from "Traditional forms" in this template: en:Template:NJmunigov. ... In checking some of the Nassau County Census Designated Places (CDPs), I find that Garden City Park has "municipal" volunteer fire department and water district websites, yet is a non-legal unincorporated municipal entity. At the same time, some CDPs are incorporated with their own municipal websites and municipal services (North New Hyde Park)[2]. In the interests of the Wikipedia I will have to go through and check each Nassau County CDP on the English Wikipedia to see whether it says if it is incorporated. It seems tedious and not very simple or scientific. I will try to find some kind of list in en:Wikipedia about the various forms of government of the settlements of Nassau, similar to that at New Jersey. (for instance en:Township (New Jersey) and en:Category:Townships in New Jersey) ... Is there some other way of doing this that doesn't require all this research? --Mr Accountable (majadiliano) 13:59, 26 Aprili 2010 (UTC)[jibu]

I have continued the discussion back at my user talk page. --Mr Accountable (majadiliano) 14:31, 26 Aprili 2010 (UTC)[jibu]

Block of bot LaaknorBot

I see that you've blocked my bot LaaknorBot, and if I understand your reason correctly, it has blanked pages, but I can't see that it has blanked any pages based on it's contributions. Have you done this in error? (please respond to my norwegian usertalk as I'm not checking this wiki activly. Laaknor (majadiliano) 10:59, 23 Mei 2010 (UTC)[jibu]

Nimechunguza michango yake na hakuna kuondosha kitu. Naona amezuiliwa kwa kosa. Nimeondoa kizuizi chake. Wasalaam, --Baba Tabita (majadiliano) 18:16, 23 Mei 2010 (UTC)[jibu]

Kigezo:India

Imefanyika. --Mr Accountable (majadiliano) 14:20, 29 Mei 2010 (UTC)[jibu]

Hongera ya makala 18,000

Salam, Kipala! Hongera ya makala 18,000! Kumbe tumefika - japokuwa kuna mengi ya kusahihisha na kufuta pia. Lakini si mbaya tukipongezana! Tuendeleeni jamani.--MwanaharakatiLonga 09:08, 31 Mei 2010 (UTC) [jibu]

Kweli. Kuna magunia mengi hayana mzigo wa kutosha na hata sioni wa kuongezea japo debe moja la mahindi! Lakini pia afadhali kwa sababu hayakuwa mchanganyiko wa maharagwe, mahindi, na mchele ndani ya gunia moja - tehethethe...--MwanaharakatiLonga 12:44, 31 Mei 2010 (UTC)[jibu]

Please enable me editing Template:Alfabeti ya Kigiriki kamili - I need to fix following errors:

I already added references to Alfabeti_ya_Kigiriki#Viungo_vya_Nje, they support my proposals. For example analogous gv:Abbyrlhit_Greagagh#Lettyryn_ass_ymmyd changes were already accepted. SMITHECAV (majadiliano) 17:13, 4 Juni 2010 (UTC)[jibu]

Dear visitor, if I understand correctly you don`t understand Kiswahili. It would have been a) nice and b) helpful if you followed nettiquette and first made a proposal on the discussion page and waited for reactions. I am not convinced about your proposal concerning digamma (wau?). You have not brought any quotable source. I do not see why you should start changing with sw. if you like to have a crusade against digamma in wikipedias across the globe - better start with English, German French - the big ones. We do not know you nor your qualities and cannot check on these. I am going to return this to digamma and lock the relevant articles. --Kipala (majadiliano) 18:00, 4 Juni 2010 (UTC)[jibu]
We can stick to digamma/disigma unification instead, as Greeks do, see el:Ελληνικό_αλφάβητο#Απαρχαιωμένα σημεία. Quotable sources are already added to Alfabeti_ya_Kigiriki#Viungo_vya_Nje, so read them - both wau/sampi & digamma/disigma are mentioned. I didn't edited Greek wiki at all, so it is trustable. I have approach of unifying to archaic wau/sampi and when not approved, I switch to modern digamma/disigma alternative unification. Please give me chance to edit Template:Alfabeti ya Kigiriki kamili, as you wished I inverted unification goal here, thanks.SMITHECAV (majadiliano) 18:30, 4 Juni 2010 (UTC)[jibu]
Nimeirudisha. Kipala (majadiliano) 18:31, 4 Juni 2010 (UTC)[jibu]

Explanations

All is repaired and explained according to en:WP:VER at Majadiliano_ya_mtumiaji:Muddyb_Blast_Producer#Redirect, please be helpful for this good faith contributor. Thanks very much. 89.238.153.10 09:14, 5 Juni 2010 (UTC)[jibu]

I repaired missing errors of this blocked new reguser that thou forgot to repair:

http://sw.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maalum:Michango/89.238.169.137

so Delta (herufi) is reinstated everywhere as thou want.

I turned again Delta_(mto) into redirect to Delta as thou wants - otherwise we have redundant identical articles.

Can thou similarly turn obsoleted Template:Alfabeti_ya_kigiriki_kamili (this one without references in footer) into redirect to currently approved Kigezo:Alfabeti_ya_Kigiriki_kamili - this is only thing which I cannot repair because of locking - otherwise we have redundant templates and interwiki robots will get stumbled, resulting in double interwikization of Kiswahili template. Please note that all letters and articles already use new Kigezo:Alfabeti_ya_Kigiriki_kamili. I mean pasting into obsolete Template:Alfabeti_ya_kigiriki_kamili following text:

#REDIRECT[[Kigezo:Alfabeti_ya_Kigiriki_kamili]].

This will fix the problem. Otherwise interwiki robots will generate dual Kiswahili interwikis. 89.238.170.134 11:11, 5 Juni 2010 (UTC)[jibu]

Other admin already fixed this. For now, whole Greek alphabet article family looks perfectly OK, case closed. 89.238.170.134 14:09, 5 Juni 2010 (UTC)[jibu]

Jimbo Wales' Wikimania questionnaire

Hi, I received a message from Jimbo Wales' office, asking if I would like to participate in a questionnaire. As I am not so proficient in Kiswahili, I wonder if you would be interested? /// Hi, mimi nilipokea ujumbe kutoka kwa ofisi ya jimbo Wales ', kuuliza kama napenda kushiriki katika maswali ya. Kama mimi si hivyo magari katika Kiswahili, mimi ajabu kama ingekuwa nia? Kama wewe ni, nami nitawapa ujumbe kwamba una nia. /// Please see: User talk:Mr Accountable#Hello! --Mr Accountable (majadiliano) 18:27, 1 Julai 2010 (UTC)[jibu]

Msaada wa tasfiri

Salam mzee Kipala. Kumradhi ndugu, unaweza kutoa maoni kwenye ukurusa wa jumuia? Tafadhali tembelea:

Wikipedia:Jumuia#Tafsiri_ya_.22Wikipedia_Usability_Initiative.22_kwa_Kiswahili

Kila la kheri.--MwanaharakatiLonga 13:46, 3 Julai 2010 (UTC) [jibu]

Questionnaire

Nadhani labda wewe umepata pia maswali yale ya Rachel - hapa majibu yangu: Mtumiaji:Kipala/questionnaire - Kipala (majadiliano) 19:07, 30 Juni 2010 (UTC)[jibu]

Asante, nimesoma majibu yako na nakubali kabisa. Hawa wanavyuo wametafsiri vibaya sana na wametupatia kazi kubwa ya kusafisha makala. ChriKo (majadiliano) 00:00, 5 Julai 2010 (UTC)[jibu]
Mimi pia nakubali yote mliyoyaandika! Tusikate tamaa kuhusu usafishaji wa kurasa hizo za Kigoogle! Ingawa shauri la Muddy ni zuri pia: tusizipotezee muda mrefu mno. Tuna mengine mengi ya kuandikwa upya! --Riccardo Riccioni (majadiliano) 06:25, 11 Julai 2010 (UTC)[jibu]

Goa

Yes, thanks, I have time for that. I will set AWB to make the list for "search 'jimbo za'" and I will correct each instance that I find. --Mr Accountable (majadiliano) 04:16, 19 Julai 2010 (UTC)[jibu]

I corrected 67 instances of "jimbo za", principally in categories states of Brazil and states of India. --Mr Accountable (majadiliano) 11:16, 21 Julai 2010 (UTC)[jibu]
Safi sana, it is fun to work with you! --Kipala (majadiliano) 17:13, 22 Julai 2010 (UTC)[jibu]
LOL Thanks very much. You know, Jamii:Mkoa/Majimbo ya Brazil, Uswisi, Japan, China, and many others; and Jamii: Miji ya Ufaransa, Miji ya Marekani na Miji ya Kanada etc (>1000 articles) at this time, are mostly made by me and mostly all the same. If there is a change, or addition, that needs to be made to these articles, it really does only take a short time. I have other stuff to do this month, or I would have fixed "jimbo za" very quickly. ... Let me know. --Mr Accountable (majadiliano) 07:10, 24 Julai 2010 (UTC)[jibu]

Shindano la Google

Salam mzee Kipala. Nimependa ujumbe wako uliouacha kwenye ukurasa wa majadiliano wa yule mtumiaji CG2010. Ujumbe huo ulikuwa:

This left a number of articles which could not be reviewed yet as there was a large (by our standards) number of absolutely new contributors who were attracted by google-prizes 8a few laptops). Nearly all of them are gone now and left a lot of articles which often are not really state of the art formally and also linguistically.

Basi nime-ya-kopi hayo maandishi na kuyatumia kwenye blogu yangu:

http://muddybtz.blog.com/2010/07/16/what-happened-on-the-google-challenge-the-swahili-wikipedia/

Ahsante sana!--MwanaharakatiLonga 06:52, 19 Julai 2010 (UTC) [jibu]

hi Kipala. i try to bring this template into a usable form, in particular getting a consitent en and sw format and eliminating errors with seals etc. even tough most users (now and to be expected in the future) will just copy the entire tempalte 1:1 from en, i want to allow for a temlate to use en and sw parameter, the titles (on the left side) always coming out in sw. So i want to differentiate between parameter "labels" and the actual explanantion (the "text" which comes out in articles). Also, because sw is not a 3mio wiki, i have eliminated a lot of options - those which are pointless in sw or look funny. please have a look and see where you would like different expressions. Best! CGN2010 (majadiliano) 17:03, 19 Julai 2010 (UTC)[jibu]

Sorry, absentminded, forgot I already wrote about thisHi, CGN, I like the new Infobox Bendera and Seal input lines very much; there are very many bendera and nembo at city articles, where I have simply put the bendera or nembo in the text of the article. I will put all those in the infobox, but there is some problem with the bendera and seal lines; 1=if there is no information in "seal", then the bendera does not display, and 2=the seal does not seem to display at all. I know this is not the highest priority, but when that is ready to go, I will get busy on putting flags and seals into the infobox. Thanks again. --Mr Accountable (majadiliano) 07:14, 24 Julai 2010 (UTC)[jibu]
OK I tested a bit on the Bad Urach entry. It works ok. It is not very easy to use, you have to get used to it. Probably nothing for newcomers. Especially because obviously en-wiki is using a special template for German Cities (and other countries too?), so we have to pick and resort the data you want to use. --Kipala (majadiliano) 10:20, 24 Julai 2010 (UTC)[jibu]
i dont get easyly through the settlement template eigther, but i will work it. for now, the sq miles are out of all the articles, and the template is becoming less complicated bit by bit. - Kipala, i have just started to bring the TZ mikoa into a more informative standard: including flag, government and website (for the infobox) and a template for the wilaya > based on the former table in Mkoa wa Tanga. For Arusha i noticed there is a discrapency to the map and you started working on the Wilaya ya Longido. if you know more what is correct, please let me know or correct whatever needs to be on Kigezo:Wilaya za Mkoa wa Arusha. My intention was to always have a "comment line", that way the boxes look more uniform. and they can go into several articles and so updates within them only need to be done once... (each) Greetings CGN2010 (majadiliano) 17:56, 25 Julai 2010 (UTC)[jibu]

Hallo Kipala, es gibt jetzt ein Portal für Europa - ich wollt all die "country data" Vorlagen in einer Übersicht und da hat sich das so ergeben. Weil von "öffentlicher" Seite viele Artikel zu Flüssen entstanden sind (siehe GB Kategorien) habe ich vorerst ein Flußbild reingesetzt. und natürlich Köln als ausgewählten Artikel. Für die ausgewählte Persönlichkeit wußte ich nicht und dachte Du weisst einen guten Artikel, den man da rein setzten kann...? Sag nur und ich machs oder einfach selber auf roten link drücken und Lango:Ulaya/Makala iliyochaguliwa/1 als Kopiervorlage benutzen. Schön wären auch noch ein zwei Sätze in der Einleitung.... Beste Grüße, CGN2010 (majadiliano) 15:13, 7 Agosti 2010 (UTC)[jibu]

Ich bin nicht sicher, was ich da machen muss - habe Karolo Mkuu für den Zweck bisschen angepasst, mach du bitte den Rest. --Kipala (majadiliano) 22:18, 7 Agosti 2010 (UTC)[jibu]
PS: dito Lango:Afrika (bzgl. passende Biographie (+Artikel!...?) CGN2010 (majadiliano) 17:26, 7 Agosti 2010 (UTC)[jibu]

Imefanyika. - danke CGN2010 (majadiliano) 00:20, 8 Agosti 2010 (UTC)[jibu]

Hallo Kipala, hoff' meine expansiven Änderungen sind alle im allg. Einvernehmen.... Hab auch wieder ein paar Fragen: 1) Für eine reihe von Ländern (China, Irland, ...) gibt es oft noch keine endgültige Entscheidung für eine Schreibweise, was auch Konsequenzen für ein paar Vigezo hat. Wie sieht das aus, das endgültig zu entscheiden, evtl. auch unter berücksichtigung der empfehlung von irgendwelchen offiziellen Stellen (Sprachrat etc)? (ich guck auch immer in geonames, wobei das oft nicht hilft.) 2) Seitdem "Eneo" (=Fläche) auf infobox:settlement verlinkt wurde, ist es sicherlich der am häufigsten vermisste Link. Wenn Du so einen Artikel anlegst/übersetzt), würd ich auch eine Liste zu den Größenordnungen anlegen/übersetzten. Wie soll ich dann so eine (Liste) benennen? (siehe auch en:Orders of magnitude (area) und en:Template:Area). 3) Ein Artikel Fläche würde auch dem neuen Lango:Hisabati gutun, wobei sowohl Lango:Hisabati/Intro und Lango:Hisabati/Aina za Hisabati eine Erweiterung brauchen (wenn du zeit hast). Hier links aus simple für Mathematik und M.-Felder. Gruß, CGN2010 (majadiliano) 19:16, 13 Agosti 2010 (UTC)[jibu]
Hoi CGN, soweit ich es im Detail sehe, machst du eine gute und wichtige Arbeit. Die Länderschreibweise würde ich für China auf "China" festlegen und für Irland offenlassen. Unsere policy bisher war es, für unklare Ländernamen mit Parallelformen zu arbeiten. Bei den templates kann man anfangs auch noch mit verschiedenen Formen fummeln, aber ab gewisser Komplexität wird das schwierig. Dann bekommen wir halt unterentwickelte Länder auch hier.
An eneo gehe ich jetzt nicht ran, bin noch im Urlaub und weitab meiner Fachlexika.
Die Flächen von Ländern sind ja sonst auf eine Liste a la en:List_of_countries_and_outlying_territories_by_total_area verlinkt. Das haben wir in unserem template nicht vorgesehen, das nur auf "eneo" = Fläche linkt. Als ich die meisten Länderartikel und die ersten Länderlisten machte, habe ich mir eine solche Entwicklun wie jetzt nicht vorstellen können und kräftig Komlexität reduziert. Hältst du denn für sinnvoll (und hättest Zeit zu investieren): Umschrieb der Länder - vigezo / jetziger link "eneo" UND dann Erstellung der entsprechenden Liste ? Ich kann helfen, sehr viel Zeit habe ich derzeit nicht, bin aber demnächst wieder zuhause und kann dann mal hin und wieder ein Stündchen zwischenschieben. Kipala (majadiliano) 21:58, 13 Agosti 2010 (UTC)[jibu]

Hallo. das mit dem unterentwickelt hab ich nicht verstanden. / du sagtest ja mal, dass sw eine große variität im ausdruck hat - was ja auch gesund ist für eine sprache. wir würden uns aber auch eine menge arbeit sparen und neuen nutzern mehr klarheit bereiten, wenn alles immer und überall eindeutig ist. das geht hin bis zum namen der nationalen fussballteams o.ä.

Die Länder-box hat für alle flächen links nach 1+E+irgendwas (import aus en). und all diese zahlen verlinkten dann auf oben erwähnte liste (können bei uns so an die 500 links sein). für das erstellen der liste wäre das meiste einfach nur kopieren, ein paar länder umgeschreiben und formatvorlagen umändern - halb so wild. ohne einen halbwegs ordentlichen artikel "Fläche" find ich so eine liste aber lächerlich. können wir ja dann in ein paar wochen angehen.

was anderes war noch eine "Kategorie:Abkürzung(en)" - auch um all die weiterleitungen zu sammeln. (auf de mit rund 30.000 Seiten) wie würde soeine Kategorie auf sw heißen? CGN2010 (majadiliano) 22:25, 13 Agosti 2010 (UTC)[jibu]

Es ist gut, sich daran zu erinnern, wo du bist aus! Es ist nicht nötig, um jedes Mal durch andere Sprachen zu kommunizieren, während Sie Ihrer eigenen Sprache haben. Viel Glück für Sie beide! Cheers.--MwanaharakatiLonga 05:45, 14 Agosti 2010 (UTC)[jibu]
- :-) Hey Muddyb, Willkommen im Deutschen Chat! ... Kipala: kannst du dir mal bei gelegenheit Majadiliano ya kigezo:Kalenda za Dunia ansehen. ich hab so meine zweifel an der Übersetzung des indischen und armenischen Kalenders. ich sah du hast den islam. Kalender angelegt, so vielleicht kennst du dich ein wenig aus. gruß CGN2010 (majadiliano) 12:28, 16 Agosti 2010 (UTC)[jibu]

AWB

Hi, I don't think we have any way to govern use of AWB here at sw. I got approved for AWB at en and I was able to use AWB here at sw immediately. Is that because I'm an sw:administrator? I don't know. I do know that for all projects (languages), each language has individual approval protocol for AWB use. If we have the ability to approve/deny AWB use, we should simply approve CGN2010, who has decided to use AWB. ... If we don't have AWB protocol, we should probably get it, I'm sure the people at AWB would appreciate it if we did. --Mr Accountable (majadiliano) 14:32, 17 Agosti 2010 (UTC)[jibu]

Would you mind just to explain in simple words what AWB is doing, what is different from now and an example how you are using it. And maybe 2 arguments of people who do not lie it. Kipala (majadiliano) 14:50, 17 Agosti 2010 (UTC)[jibu]
Well, actually, maybe we don't need to change anything. Maybe we already have a way to govern the use of AWB here at SW. I've asked for some information from an AWB person at en:AWB. I'll keep you posted. --Mr Accountable (majadiliano) 15:33, 17 Agosti 2010 (UTC)[jibu]

re:Rais wa Marekani na utafsiri wa google

Sorry about that. I actually was "moving" the article from "Marais wa Amerika" which seemed to be mislabeled. I didn't create the article and if you want to delete it go ahead. Yes, it would be nice if someone marked or deleted articles that are mumbo-jumbo so people don't bother trying to fix them. --MarsRover (majadiliano) 14:48, 18 Agosti 2010 (UTC)[jibu]