Majadiliano ya mtumiaji:Rich Farmbrough

sw-wikipedia?

Hi Rich, I see that you imported hundreds of English language templates into sw-wikipedia. I am sure that you did this with a good intention! Did you discuss this with any of the admins (not that I am aware of). What is your idea in flooding the Swahili wikipedia with material in a foreign language? Kindly comment! sw:user:kipala

(moved back from en:)

Ok I see we pay a price for sins of the past. We have a lot of articles which were created by newcomers thru translation. Quite a number were just dump of english entries into the google machine. Being newscomers they did not understand the idea of templates - thus we got this long list of requested templates which is caused by all those probably inadvertently imported english templates. I am not a friend of getting more English language content but my friend Muddy likes it - yeah maybe its better to have the English template than just the red line. OK, thanks - we see to it! Kipala (majadiliano) 19:49, 16 Septemba 2011 (UTC)

Kigezo:Infobox Settlement

Rich, kindly have a look why this template works nicely with Nairobi but is a mess with Nouadhibou. Kipala (majadiliano) 05:45, 28 Septemba 2011 (UTC)

We need Kigezo:Location map Mauritania - I'll fetch the next batch. Rich Farmbrough

I do not think we need that. We are too small to work with different city templates for each country. Does not look sustainable to me. One working template for settlements of any kind is enough. Please do not go to importing blindly anything that has been dumped into any of our entries. Lets have some reasoning about what we need. Kipala (majadiliano) 15:05, 28 Septemba 2011 (UTC)

I am all for reasoning. What is your concern here? The risk of vandalism when we have, say 240, location map templates? Essentially these type of templates perform a database function and are designed to reduce workload. There are suggestions of better ways to do things, including a separate data wiki, or an interwiki resource for templates like commons. These need commitment from the WMF to happen, so they are currently pipe-dreams. I am interested in (among other things) a simple to use Wiki in any language, and believe that templates are one way of doing this. They can also share effort across many languages. This approach is used on the Nepali Wikipedia, for example. Rich Farmbrough

I am all for reducing workload. How does this happen with 240 location templates instead of one? As far as I see it 240 location templates have to be translated 240x, have to be remembered they they exist (otherwise you get some places with template a, others with template b or c) and have to be maintained. We do not see the long term capacity for this. What is wrong with one location teplate for a small wiki like this? Kipala (majadiliano) 05:37, 29 Septemba 2011 (UTC)

The way location maps work , for example, is relatively language independent. They are called from {{Infobox settlement}} - this is not like {{Infobox Indian jurisdiction}} which is a replacement for {{Infobox settlement}} just for India, which I also oppose, even on en:. They are more part of {{Infobox settlement}} which become more useful as time goes by. We currently have only the two we need so far, and they are un-likely to change. We will only bring more over as we need them, partly because that's easier and partly because I hope that there will be a better system in a year or two.

Rich Farmbrough

Rich, sorry I didi not get all your points. Let me ask once more. A) What is the problem with just one location template? B) How do you conclude "we need this or that template" ? Kipala (majadiliano) 21:17, 3 Oktoba 2011 (UTC)

A) The location templates are invisible magic - they tell {{Infobox settlement}} the name of the map to use, and where the corners are so that the "pin" can be put in the right place. Obviously you cannot use the map of Kenya for Mauritania.

B) Templates that are being used and don't exist (on sw:) are listed at Maalum:Wanted templates.

Rich Farmbrough , 12:10, 5 Oktoba 2011 (UTC).

TZ's political stubs

Hi there. The mbegu that you've created - it's awesome! However, there is a tiny problem with majimbo's area. For instance, in each and every article you've added a bracket "Arusha" while most of them are not from Arusha. Let's talk about jimbo la Ubungo, Ubungo is located in Dar es Salaam and not Arusha! Furthermore: there is no need to mention the region - just write only the constituency only and it would be better. You have a big job review what you've created. I think you can use an AWB for that! Word up!!!!--_{Mwanaharakati}^Longa 11:16, 12 Novemba 2011 (UTC)

Oookayyy, you did an outstanding job, buddy! It's totally awesome! Keep it up!!! And remember, do not hesitate to ask me anything, pal - be more than willing to help you out! Cheers!!!!--_{Mwanaharakati}^Longa 07:01, 13 Novemba 2011 (UTC)